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guest65 · Guest

I am sorry. I must have misunderstood. I thought this was about a member of the softball team using inappropriate language and the coach apparently ignoring it. Maybe this post should have been elsewhere.

However, I still believe the most appropriate first step would have been to go to the coach to (1) be positively sure he actually did see/hear the language and (2) tell him your concern about the student, the reputation of the team and the reputation of the school. I personally believe that students and teachers who are in public positions where they not only have a significant influence on students, but are in the public eye (such as a coach, band director, etc.) have an even greater obligation to be a good role model. Other students, and many times younger students, look up to the athletes, band members, etc. and want to be like them. They too must be good role models...the better the athlete...the more influence they usually have.

The coach may or may not be able or choose to tell you what actions he has taken or will take, because it is definitely not appropriate (and in some cases illegal) to talk to other parents about another child, but hopefully he can convince you that action has or will be taken. If not, then I think that is the time to go to an administrator. I understand that is difficult for some people to go directly to the person they have an issue with, just as it is difficult for a coach to discipline his/her best player...but it should be done by both the accuser of negligence and by the coach.

Communication, even if difficult solves many problems. The more direct, fewer people involved, the better it usually works.

Again, maybe this should be posted somewhere else, if that is the case someone can copy it and post it in that place.

JohnHarris · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

Guest65,

I would be interested to know your thoughts on the appropriate course of action if you were in a situation where you have a concern, which you believe to be legitimate, that going to the coach might result in either the coach, other coaches, and/or other students to retaliate against your child. If you had that concern, would your suggested course of action be different and if so, how?

Guest · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject:

I agree with John Harris. Call it cowardly to do nothing but my child loves playing ball and I would never want my actions to cause her to be punished. I've seen personally where coaches hold grudges, dislike
certain kids, and/or dislike parents and do not play that child. And unfortunately, there was a couple of bad apples on the team who would retaliate.

Wrong? Of course but it's the nature of many things. We all know of job situations where the 'brown noser' gets ahead. It's part of life and you learn how to deal with it. The sad part of this situation is that it's taking place is a supposed christian enviroment. It's just caused me to have to work really hard at communicating with my child that not all people, who claim to be christians, will measure up.

The Bible warns of this.....it also says it rains on the just and unjust. I'm going to have faith that this year things will be different!

justme · Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 55

Parent · Guest

If its not Christianity and its even not Church of Christ then calling it the religion of Goodpasture really just says its a cult.

I do not think that everyone at Goodpasture is cultish but I do believe that those in control of the school and some of the teachers and a lot of the \"in\" parents are. Look it up on the definition of a cult and the control group at Goodpasture meets every element under the definition. (I tried to post a link but I am getting an error message when I do).

Admin1 · Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 110

searching · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 7

Just an observation.... Softball tryouts began yesterday and due to weather they were held in the small gym. When it was over and everyone was coming out, I was amazed at the number of parents who were IN the gym during tryouts! These are high school students, most drove themselves to school. So these people made a special trip to the school to watch! And from what I was told, they had been there thru the entire thing.

This just is another example of the strange things that go on in softball at Goodpasture. How many high schools allow parents, or any spectators, during sports tryouts? I understand if it's outdoors you have no control but this wasn't the case. Once again it was these controlling parents who think their diva brats are special and want to make sure no one is better than their kid.

The coach really should take back control of this team from the girls AND the parents!!

Guest · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject:

Disappointed GCS Parent · Guest

Guest · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:21 am Post subject:

I don't understand how bringing them on the team as 8th graders puts them 'under' the radar. Even if TSSAA didn't bother to check up on the 8th graders, they won't remain 8th graders forever.

So if there were proof that the 8th graders had payed full tuition, would people still be complaining? Because being recruited without giving any incentive to come probably just means the family wanted their child at GCS. Or is the whole issue here money?

I wish I had an answer for why there isn't a JV. Seems that would help to curb the complaints. I must say though, even with a JV, that doesn't mean that younger girls wouldn't play Varsity. I saw a 9th grader playing Varisty basketball the other night. Yet there were older players on the bench who never played. Part of competitive sports but at least they do have JV so the other players will get a chance to play and get better.

concerned alumnus · Guest

I do know that the 2005 state championship team consisted of 4 girls who attended elementary school at Goodpasture and they all got college scholarships. I also know that none of those 4 were given any kind of tution assistance. I know that one of the other girls started in 7th or 8th grade. I don't know anything about her.
I don't know anything about the program now. Could it be possible that the parents just want their daughters on a team that always competes for a state championship and gets lots of colleges watching them. The parents may be willing to fork out the Goodpasture tution and save on college tution.

Guest · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject:

Then why did we have 7th and 8th graders come in 2006 bragging that the coaches came to their schools and asked them to come to GCS AND the parents bragged about their reduced tuition?

guest 2 · Guest

Unfortunatley without proof that's just hear say. And even if a parent told you that, they could lying and just trying to brag on their little brats skills. You know, trying to make people think that their soooo good that the school came searching for them and begged them to come.

Come on guys, i watched many games last year and the younger players aren't that exceptional. A little above average - yes. Exceptional and worth paying to come here - NO!

I think mommy and daddy are delusional and wishing that was how it went down.

unknown · Guest

so how is the season going so far?

guest 2 · Guest

I heard they went 3 and 1. But this was not a good indicator of how good the teams are or aren't because most teams did not use their starting pitchers. But all in all, heard they looked pretty good.......a couple of the 8th graders from last year (read:freshmen) hit home runs. I do have to admit, there are some talented young players. Still doesn't make up for the overall attitude or lack of discipline.

senior who knows · Guest

i dont know wgy everyone is freaking out. If all your going to do is worry about what everyone else is doing at Goodpasture and judge people like this then send ur kids somewhere else. its not like this is the only team at the school that cusses. so calm down.

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:58 am Post subject:

Well 'senior who knows', you make our point exactly. That you don't know why people are upset at the lack of self discipline shows the heart of the problem...NO discipline, NO self control, NO respect for authority! In my day, coach would bench players who didn't demonstrate respect. I know players/kids may cuss.....not really the issue here. It's that these players mentioned cussed, actually took the Lord's name in vain, quite loudly, and in front of the entire team, coaches, and some spectators.

But this is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. So don't strain at swallowing that knat while the camel should be the issue.

*sparked* · Guest

just the word on the street...ive heard among different conversations that the softball team went to the O'Charley's dinner and won team of the year!!! congratulations softball team!! i also heard that they went to a Predators game and received honor for being team of the year and got a predatosrs jersey...sounds great!!! however, ive also heard from among conversations that not all team members of 2007's softball team attended both of these events......just in conversation i was told that the head coach stated that he specifically informed every team member of 2007's softball team that they were invited to go to the O'Charley's dinner....in contrast, ive been told that about four or five players were never informed about this event and were surprised that they even received the team of the year award also the predators jersey.....i dont know much about Goodpasture's softball program but i've heard good and bad things about it...so i just thought i might share this information on the softball website of goodpasture confidential.....if anyone knows anything about why this happened please respond because this sparked my interest...thank you Smile

Guest · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

Yes, the team won the dinner of champions team of the year.

Yes, they were invited to a Predators game.

No, they didn't get a jersey. They got an oversized white t-shirt that said 'Team Champs' on the front and 'Predators' on the back. (Side note: not the highest of quality)

Not sure about any of the details of who was or wasn't informed. Not all current team members were in attendance at either event. No former members were in attendance.

*sparked* · Guest

ok i didn't know that they got a tshirt...i was told in conversation that they received a jersey so ok on that note....secondly, about the whole former team members and the current team members showing up at events....i just thought through the whole thing but.....if they won team of the year for 2007, shouldn't all team members whether current or former be there or be invited? i'm just giving your information that i was told....like before, i'm new to the whole softball website thing but wouldn't that make sense? just wondering...

Guest · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject:

Sparked,

I understand you're just asking, that's why I was giving you the answers that i had. The more info people have, the less chance of misunderstandings.

As for last year's team member.....Yes, they should have been invited. I don't know if they were or not. Sad if they weren't. The only thing I can figure out if they weren't is that I was told the tickets were $50 a piece. The players weren't ask to pay this so I'm guessing the school must have paid which means the fewer people attending, the cheaper!

06parent · Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 1

It seems they have a crew of dedicated girls playing a game they are good at.... Wink

Guest · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject:

When we won team of the year for 2007, we hadn't lost any players from the year before. Therefore, no need "invite back" former players.

As for the cussing incident on the field at practice, the coach actually didn't tell the player to run at all. She did it on her own. As for what her parents said to her, its not anyone else's business. Not all parents have the same parenting style.

Never once have I received "reduced tuition" or heard of anyone else receiving it.

Cleared anything up?